Yes, there was a tech guy there, but only as support. In the end I could ask a few questions about working there. But he was not in the department I applied for, so he could not answer specific questions. Also these HR people are not trained psychologists, so the test themselves are worth nothing. Heck psychiatry itself in not exactly an exact science, even well know psychiatrist are known to make extremely wrong diagnostics.

Finally they called and told me that I did not get a job. What a surprise! Not!

Of course I asked why, out of curiosity. First they said I seemed younger than my age and work experience would entail. I made a confused impression and was not able to answer all questions clearly. Also they found that the conversation did not go smoothly.

Also they said I have to watch my words. For instance I said you guys do the research mumbu jumbo, She found that a little disrespectful.

I, in my turn told them there order of things was weird. I still do not know what the job entails. Should that not be a priority? I still do not know what the job is about.

Also I also did the same thing with the word choice with all the other companies. They did not mind because they have a thing called a sense of humour and some healthy ammount of self-deprecating. Weird a company that claims to be open to have problems with some of my wording.

Also they reason I sound confused was because the questions were annoyingly vague. Like I mentioned before and they kept interupting me. Why not aks a open question first? Like tell me who Bobby is, so you have a flowing conversation and then you start the third degree. To be honest with all the lack of professionalism before (read the TNO post with me trying to call them) and this dry nonsensical psychological mumbo-jumbo (sorry not going to  watch my words, grown some balls and deal with it)  I really do not want to work there. I should threat them with more respect they say? Sorry honey, you have to earn my respect. Believe it or not, TNO is not a gift of God, I should now, for I am GOD. Puny little fleshbags tremble before my might.

bugsonglass said:

Just playing devil's advocate:

Firstly:  Some employers may feel that if you are applying for a job then you know, or you should know (if not everything) at least the gist of what it entails or at least what it's about and that may be (at least part of) the reason why you are applying.  Why would you apply in the first place if you had no idea what the job was?

I knew the gist of it. But the description was vague. Of course I tried calling before applying, I tried it 3 times, but I could not get the contact person on the line. That contact person was the same person that did the interview. Stuff like day to day activity was unknown. Stuff like what exactly do you mean with High-end equipment was unknow. Stuff like how the internal education would work was unknown. Important stuff don't you think?  I knew I would talk about the results of the personality test, but did not expect it to be 90% of the conversation. Could at least send me the results before hand so I could prepare for it.

bugsonglass said:

Secondly:  Wording and etiquette is indeed very important.  Those people are not your chums.  Whether they have have a sense of humour or not may or may not come into it but in my experience you do not win people over by being over-familiar.

Sorry, but I got 3 other job offerings by doing just that. Only two failed and they both included a personality test. The first one called me a sociopath and the second one made me look normal. At least there is some improvement there. Others failed for other reasons, but the interviews went well there. Engineers are known to be laxed and crude with their wording. It is who I am, not going to change anytime soon.

bugsonglass said:

Lastly:  Sadly they do not have to earn your respect, they can just reject you and move along to the next person.  They are the ones who can offer you the job or not.  It's the way the cookie crumbles

No that is not the way the cookie crumbles. Not at all. They have to earn my respect, because they need an employee too. I must convince them that I am suited for that job and they must convince me that the company is suited for me. They failed in that regard as I have failed in convincing them. But the thing is I already have 2 other job offers. So if they reject me then it is no big deal at all. It was a longshot at best. I can reject them and move to two other companies like they can reject me and move to other persons.

Just playing the God pounding the devil part.

Dry dock>money.