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World Cup 2010 group draw and fixtures

Group A

South Africa
Mexico
Uruguai
France

Group B
Argentina
Nigeria
South Korea
Greece

Group C
England
United States
Algeria
Slovenia

Group D
Germany
Australia
Serbia
Ghana

Group E
Netherlands
Denmark
Japan
Cameroon

Group F
Italy
Paraguai
New Zealand
Slovakia

Group G
Brazil
North Korea
Ivory Coast
Portugal

Group H
Spain
Switzerland
Honduras
Chile



GROUP A FIXTURES
         

Friday, 11 June 2010
South Africa v Mexico, Gp A, 15:00
Uruguay v France, Gp A, 19:30

Wednesday, 16 June 2010
South Africa v Uruguay, Gp A, 19:30

Thursday, 17 June 2010
France v Mexico, Gp A, 12:30

Tuesday, 22 June 2010
France v South Africa, Gp A, 15:00
Mexico v Uruguay, Gp A, 15:00
         

GROUP B FIXTURES
         

Saturday, 12 June 2010
Argentina v Nigeria, Gp B, 12:30
South Korea v Greece, Gp B, 15:00

Thursday, 17 June 2010
Argentina v South Korea, Gp B, 19:30
Greece v Nigeria, Gp B, 15:00

Tuesday, 22 June 2010
Greece v Argentina, Gp B, 19:30
Nigeria v South Korea, Gp B, 19:30
         

GROUP C FIXTURES
         

Saturday, 12 June 2010
England v USA, Gp C, 19:30

Sunday, 13 June 2010
Algeria v Slovenia, Gp C, 12:30

Friday, 18 June 2010
England v Algeria, Gp C, 19:30
Slovenia v USA, Gp C, 15:00

Wednesday, 23 June 2010
Slovenia v England, Gp C, 15:00
USA v Algeria, Gp C, 15:00
         

GROUP D FIXTURES
         

Sunday, 13 June 2010
Germany v Australia, Gp D, 15:00
Serbia v Ghana, Gp D, 19:30

Friday, 18 June 2010
Germany v Serbia, Gp D, 12:30

Saturday, 19 June 2010
Ghana v Australia, Gp D, 12:30

Wednesday, 23 June 2010
Australia v Serbia, Gp D, 19:30
Ghana v Germany, Gp D, 19:30
         

GROUP E FIXTURES
         

Monday, 14 June 2010
Japan v Cameroon, Gp E, 15:00
Netherlands v Denmark, Gp E, 12:30

Saturday, 19 June 2010
Cameroon v Denmark, Gp E, 19:30
Netherlands v Japan, Gp E, 15:00

Thursday, 24 June 2010
Cameroon v Netherlands, Gp E, 19:30
Denmark v Japan, Gp E, 19:30
         

GROUP F FIXTURES
         

Monday, 14 June 2010
Italy v Paraguay, Gp F, 19:30

Tuesday, 15 June 2010
New Zealand v Slovakia, Gp F, 12:30

Sunday, 20 June 2010
Italy v New Zealand, Gp F, 15:00
Paraguay v Slovakia, Gp F, 12:30

Thursday, 24 June 2010
Paraguay v New Zealand, Gp F, 15:00
Slovakia v Italy, Gp F, 15:00
         

GROUP G FIXTURES
         

Tuesday, 15 June 2010
Brazil v North Korea, Gp G, 19:30
Ivory Coast v Portugal, Gp G, 15:00

Sunday, 20 June 2010
Brazil v Ivory Coast, Gp G, 19:30

Monday, 21 June 2010
Portugal v North Korea, Gp G, 12:30

Friday, 25 June 2010
North Korea v Ivory Coast, Gp G, 15:00
Portugal v Brazil, Gp G, 15:00
         

GROUP H FIXTURES
         

Wednesday, 16 June 2010
Honduras v Chile, Gp H, 12:30
Spain v Switzerland, Gp H, 15:00

Monday, 21 June 2010
Chile v Switzerland, Gp H, 15:00
Spain v Honduras, Gp H, 19:30

Friday, 25 June 2010
Chile v Spain, Gp H, 19:30
Switzerland v Honduras, Gp H, 19:30
Switzerland v Honduras, Gp H, 19:30
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Gotta say as hard as it is Australia's group is actually pretty damn exciting. And it's good to see there are no kick offs later in the group stage than 4:30am. Won't be too bad to stay up for. Nyaa

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personally i don't like the way the groups formed one bit.  it is largely unfair for many worthy teams while it will be a doddle to qualify for some others.  

look at spain's group H for example, virtually no note-worthy opposition in their group.  look at cheating italy's group F, even a worthless squad like theirs will get through that group.  Or how about group A?  not one single good team among them, yet two of those will go to the next stage.  England's group C is another joke.  Beckham can talk all he wants about every game being difficult at this stage but you could see he was lying through his shiny teeth and he could hardly contain his smiles (i for one hope the US at least will give them a run for their money).  Group B is not much to look at either.  Argentina almost didn't qualify yet somehow they find themselves seeded.  At least this group gives Nigeria a running chance to go through.  Group E is also silly, the Netherlands do not deserve to be a seeded team but as with Group B this at least will let Cameroon, like Nigeria progress beyond the group stages.

which is more than i can say about my two personal favourite teams.  Ghana is in what is quite arguably the toughest group (Group D).  Australia is flying, and they're hungry for having been cheated by Italy last world cup.  Germany is strong and Serbia is a very dangerous team who will leave you with many injuries even if they don't beat you.  Ivory Coast in Group G also have their work cut out for them.  They will have to beat Portugal, and get something out of Brazil if they are to qualify.  not easy.

Go Ghana!


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Nice thread Bugsy, but you should spice up the title a bit. Like "the greatest show on earth". You know to piss of the Yanks.

About the draw, yes I agree with you Bugsy. It is uneven! I just hope Serbia does not go out like a bitch. Yes, you can loose, but try not to be embarrassing. Like last time against Argentina, or the trashing they got against Holland. I just hope we will see attractive football from them and not the defensive shit we saw last time. In the old days Serbia/Yugoslavia were know for technical and attractive football. I want to see that again. 

Germany is not that strong, but that does not matter. Germany always finds a way to get at least to the semis. Fuckers. 

Ghana played the best football in the last WC, but they had trouble scoring. They played technical, attractive football. Funny how they played more like the old Yugoslavia, then Serbia Montenegro ever did. And they have another Serbian coach. So with things considered, they are the second team  I support. Of course I will support our little brothers, Slovenia against England.

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I'm not sure you could say we're flying under Verbeek but I suppose we'll have to see how we do in the lead up to the WC. Hopefully we'll play a bit more ambitiously than we have done in qualification.

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England vs USA.

The stakes? Control over the US. If England win then the US becomes a colony once more. If the USA wins, England becomes a US state.

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gamingeek said:

England vs USA.

The stakes? Control over the US. If England win then the US becomes a colony once more. If the USA wins, England becomes a US state.

 And if it is a draw, they will nuke each other.

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Iga_Bobovic said:

gamingeek said:

England vs USA.

The stakes? Control over the US. If England win then the US becomes a colony once more. If the USA wins, England becomes a US state.

And if it is a draw, they will nuke each other.

That's what I'm hoping for.

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So, I'm a very casual futbol fan, but this is the world cup and so I'm taking an interest in it and want to get into it a fair bit more.  When I heard the Worldgameroos were going to have to beat the Germans in the first round I pretty much counted out Australia.  How do they stack up?

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So, I'm a very casual futbol fan, but this is the world cup and so I'm taking an interest in it and want to get into it a fair bit more.  When I heard the Worldgameroos were going to have to beat the Germans in the first round I pretty much counted out Australia.  How do they stack up?

Germany is definitely the favourite to pass the group. They are not perhaps the strongest on paper, but this is motherfucking Germany, they always find a way to get far. The weaker they are the further they get. 

Serbia is really dangerous, but very unpredictable. They can play very well, but they might as well fuck up and loss 6-0. They have a very good team on paper, but their mental game is always unpredictable.

Ghana is the best African team. They play beautiful football, but they have trouble scoring. They need many opportunities to score. Of course like all African teams they are physically strong and have great stamina.

So the prognosis is 

1 Germany

2/3 Ghana / Serbia

4 Australia

So basically Australia is fucked. 

 

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aspro said:
So, I'm a very casual futbol fan, but this is the world cup and so I'm taking an interest in it and want to get into it a fair bit more.  When I heard the Worldgameroos were going to have to beat the Germans in the first round I pretty much counted out Australia.  How do they stack up?

Germany is definitely the favourite to pass the group. They are not perhaps the strongest on paper, but this is motherfucking Germany, they always find a way to get far. The weaker they are the further they get.

Serbia is really dangerous, but very unpredictable. They can play very well, but they might as well fuck up and loss 6-0. They have a very good team on paper, but their mental game is always unpredictable.

Ghana is the best African team. They play beautiful football, but they have trouble scoring. They need many opportunities to score. Of course like all African teams they are physically strong and have great stamina.

So the prognosis is

1 Germany

2/3 Ghana / Serbia

4 Australia

So basically Australia is fucked.

  So how would you summarize the Australian team, as you did above for the other's in D?

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aspro said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

aspro said:
So, I'm a very casual futbol fan, but this is the world cup and so I'm taking an interest in it and want to get into it a fair bit more.  When I heard the Worldgameroos were going to have to beat the Germans in the first round I pretty much counted out Australia.  How do they stack up?

Germany is definitely the favourite to pass the group. They are not perhaps the strongest on paper, but this is motherfucking Germany, they always find a way to get far. The weaker they are the further they get.

Serbia is really dangerous, but very unpredictable. They can play very well, but they might as well fuck up and loss 6-0. They have a very good team on paper, but their mental game is always unpredictable.

Ghana is the best African team. They play beautiful football, but they have trouble scoring. They need many opportunities to score. Of course like all African teams they are physically strong and have great stamina.

So the prognosis is

1 Germany

2/3 Ghana / Serbia

4 Australia

So basically Australia is fucked.

  So how would you summarize the Australian team, as you did above for the other's in D?

Ask Foolz, I did not see them play post Hiddink. 

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Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:47:45
^Which group is the biggest question mark? In terms of parity in skill/ execution.

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^Which group is the biggest question mark? In terms of parity in skill/ execution.

You are looking at it. Although Germany s favourite, it is mostly because of their performance and mental skills. Germany/Serbia/Ghana is around the same level skill wise. Australia is below that, but I am not sure how much. There is another group Brazil/Portugal/North Korea and Côte d'Ivoire is also a strong group, but Brazil is head and shoulders above the rest skill and mental wise. Portugal and Côte d'Ivoire are close together and North Korea is below that.

Please remember that the closest groups do not necessary mean that the group will be close. The last Group of Death was decided decisively.


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Well we need to play a few games about better teams than in the Asian qualification to say where we're at but during the qualification it was basically a case of playing to the teams we were against which meant usually defending and going on the counter attack considering that Asian teams are technically good but don't actually know how to shoot. That and taking advantage of everyone in Asia being under 5 foot. If we play like that in the WC we're screwed.

Our other problem is without Viduka we don't really have any quality strikers. And there's only Neil at centre back who's true quality as well. Moore's too slow now that he's so slow and well, who else is there, Kisnorbo? :X

Which sounds like a lot of doom and gloom, but honestly I think we've got a pretty good chance of getting out of the group, so long as Pim doesn't do what we did in Asia.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:14:22

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Well we need to play a few games about better teams than in the Asian qualification to say where we're at but during the qualification it was basically a case of playing to the teams we were against which meant usually defending and going on the counter attack considering that Asian teams are technically good but don't actually know how to shoot. That and taking advantage of everyone in Asia being under 5 foot. If we play like that in the WC we're screwed.

Our other problem is without Viduka we don't really have any quality strikers. And there's only Neil at centre back who's true quality as well. Moore's too slow now that he's so slow and well, who else is there, Kisnorbo? :X

Which sounds like a lot of doom and gloom, but honestly I think we've got a pretty good chance of getting out of the group, so long as Pim doesn't do what we did in Asia.

i actually agree with this very much but i wouldn't count against Australia going through.  even though they don't overflow natural talent as a team and they haven't been tested yet, i think they are very disciplined and they have a high work rate.  i consider them very similar to the US in that respect.  teams like this do well in such competitions.  it really is the group of death though to be sure any one  of the 4 teams is capable of going through to the next stage with a little luck and none of the 4 teams can go through without a little luck.

foolz about strikers, what about tim cahill?  he was very dangerous at one time

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:30:50
My national team is a regular second-round qualifier. Unfortunately, that's as far as they get. They have never managed to sneak in after the second round. So, yeah, I'm not putting too much hope in their performance as long as the players keep those diva attitudes.

South Africa and Uruguay are probably manageable, and France is a big question mark because they have been playing shit with Domenech, but they have a lot of world-class players. Fortunately, we will have the whole world backing us up against them. LOL Even the french will side with us.
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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:33:14
Also, historically, our team has always lacked punch in the attack. All hopes are being put over Vela's shoulders, but the guy is taking ages to actually show some of the futbol everybody thinks he's capable of. I have my doubts.
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Also, historically, our team has always lacked punch in the attack. All hopes are being put over Vela's shoulders, but the guy is taking ages to actually show some of the futbol everybody thinks he's capable of. I have my doubts.

he wasted two golden chances last night.  unforgivable.  he was lucky arsenal didn't actually need any points to qualify

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:04:44
Well, I can't wait for it to get started.  Foolz, what channels do coverage here in AU? I'm hoping ONE HD has some games.

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