If you have to pay for a whole new console whilst still within the 5 year assumed lifecycle of said machine, well that would piss me off royally.
My bros 360 broke down three times and he vowed never to buy a MS product again. Mine broke once and was replaced. I hardly play it though so it hasn't had the chance to break.
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If it plays games I want, I buy it. Even if its 4 times LOL I only bought 2 360's the original which was replaced twice and an arcade HDMI one I got for $ 175 which I still use. The New slim I got was mostly paid for by trading the old non HDMI refurb from MS to Gamestop with mega accessories I think I piad $25 out of my own pocket. The Arcade Falon HDMI I have had since feb 2009 no problems at all. The Slim I bought right when they came out as Gamestop always has amazing trade in deals when a new system comes out, hell thats how I got my PS3 slim.
I paid $50 for my DS which turned out not to be as hardy as Nintendo products are meant to be. (A lot of blue tac later and it still works pretty well, though.) So going by that logic the 360 is probably worth about $25 at most. Perhaps less when one takes in to account the library.
My time will come.
^I certainly want the Witcher 2 when it comes out.
Here is my very complicated situation, just so it's written down somewhere.
I have a US PS3 and a US 360. I live in Australia. Up until now I've been importing all my games from the States, but I won't be doing that any longer. The PS3 is region free, so for that reason I'll be getting most games for it (since I have to import all my 360 and Wii games -- probably from play-asia).
Next gen I start fresh with Australian region consoles. It's just so much nicer to be able to walk into a store and pick up games as opposed to the crazy hoops I've been going through up until now.
Just so you know a lot of 360 games are region free too PA sells Asian versions and always has a chart of which games are region free and the Asian versions are a cheaper too.
Yodariquo said:I've mostly given up on avoiding businesses for bad experiences, but I simply would not buy a 360, nor at least whatever Microsoft comes up with next.
If I knew now what I did when this generation started I'd still end up getting all three consoles when I did. With the declining number of exclusives that may not be the case next generation. I now I certainly won't trust Sony or MS and get systems at launch like I did in the past. It's just throwing away money on iffy hardware.
http://www.play-asia.com/Asuras_Wrath/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4hp2.html
Just as an example see here see where it shows the green check marks in all regions.
Also the Asian version almost always features english as its default lang.
For me I will always be a Playstation guy. I actually perfer the DS3, I cannot stand how hard and plasticy the buttons on the 360 are. I dont like the triggers, really hurts your finger when you press them for a long time. Plus I cannot rapid fire them like I can R1. Dpad sucks of course.
The menus are much nicer to look at but the PS3 is way more organized. It took me a month to find out how to change a theme. I still have no clue how to switch player 1 to player 2. I just cant find info as quick as the XMB. I think PSN does nearly everything just as good, I never use cross game chat so that doesnt matter to me.
Where the 360 wins is of course graphics as most 3rd party games look better. The patches and updates are so much quicker, downloading is way faster.
_Bear said:http://www.play-asia.com/Asuras_Wrath/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4hp2.html
Just as an example see here see where it shows the green check marks in all regions.
Also the Asian version almost always features english as its default lang.
Cool to know, thanks Bear. Dunno about the ones they sell in stores here. I know the Playasia ones are usually NTSC and PAL compliant (which is where I plan on getting my 360 and Wii games from now on). I am not sure about the ones sold here in Australia (I thought not). At least everything I found on the web indicated that a US 360 won't play games from the PAL regions.
http://www.play-asia.com/SSX/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4idi.html
http://www.play-asia.com/Syndicate/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4idk.html
http://www.play-asia.com/UFC_Undisputed_3/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4hr9.html
90% of all new games are region free and cheaper than the states AP so really no excuses ok?LOL
aspro said:_Bear said:http://www.play-asia.com/Asuras_Wrath/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4hp2.html
Just as an example see here see where it shows the green check marks in all regions.
Also the Asian version almost always features english as its default lang.
Cool to know, thanks Bear. Dunno about the ones they sell in stores here. I know the Playasia ones are usually NTSC and PAL compliant (which is where I plan on getting my 360 and Wii games from now on). I am not sure about the ones sold here in Australia (I thought not). At least everything I found on the web indicated that a US 360 won't play games from the PAL regions.
aspro said:_Bear said:http://www.play-asia.com/Asuras_Wrath/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-4hp2.html
Just as an example see here see where it shows the green check marks in all regions.
Also the Asian version almost always features english as its default lang.
Cool to know, thanks Bear. Dunno about the ones they sell in stores here. I know the Playasia ones are usually NTSC and PAL compliant (which is where I plan on getting my 360 and Wii games from now on). I am not sure about the ones sold here in Australia (I thought not). At least everything I found on the web indicated that a US 360 won't play games from the PAL regions.Lies dude I know they love to control you guys over there ...
Well in fairness, I said I was going to get my 360 games from Playasia -- which is still importing -- which is still more difficult than just strolling into a store and taking PS3 games off the shelf.
Asain version though is best price wise since you have a US 360 no reason to get the pal one right?
Well in fairness, I said I was going to get my 360 games from Playasia -- which is still importing -- which is still more difficult than just strolling into a store and taking PS3 games off the shelf.
True enough...
Well also the whole pal thing is mute these days with the onset of HDTV 50 60 HRTZ deal does not factor anymore because all HDTV are 60 HRTZ or above now...So yes pal games will play on US 360 as long as they ar eregion free games.
Is anyone other than me having issues with backward compatible games on Xbox One? I cannot get any of them to work, even ones I have previously installed and played in the past on the same console.
I thought maybe Xbox with the latest update made backward compatibility region locked (I have Australian Xbox One and US XBOX and XBOX 360 games).
No help can be found on the internet.
While I was away from the site I managed to get a replacement 360 from the States. After the third one died I was fairly miffed at Microsoft, but once I got the new Slim up and running, with my old saves restored, I was back where I was a couple of years ago -- loving my 360.
How great can a product be that after having three of them fail you are happy, excited even, to get a fourth one? I've had two Mitsubishi's in my life, an Eclipse and a Pajero (Montero in some markets). After having electrical problems with the first one I swore I'd never buy another. I buy the Pajero and what do I find? Electrical problems. I swear, I'll now not only ever buy a Mitsubishi ever again, but I'll campaign against them when ever someone asks my advice.
But here I am loving my 360. It charges for online, it steals my saves, it sells me games online then, when licensing agreements change, takes them away.But I still love it. I've had four of them while my original PS3 shows no sign of slowing down... but still.
So what makes it so great? The controller is not as comfortable as the Dual Shock (what with that battery pack on the back), but the sticks are so much better than those found on the Sony competitor. Having the sticks be concave makes sure that when the action gets frantic in a game your thumbs don't slide off.  Having them off center, also balances the weight of the controller. And, at least when the controller is new, it has those four little dimples that help you keep the orientation of your thumbs. The controller is the most important part of any console, after the software, and Microsoft nailed it.
Also on the plus side is the GUI. I think the latest version of the desktop is the best so far. Clearly organized, with the stuff I use the most in the most obvious places. What was genius though is Microsoft's courage to keep changing it. It makes the console always seem new -- even though the hardware is almost archaic at this point.
The built-in HDMI has mostly closed the gap with the PS3 in terms of graphics. Most developers use it as the lead platform, so it makes sense the graphics were comparable, but without HDMI it was impossible to tell before.
Finally, what I love about the 360 is the SILENCE. It is quieter than a Wii now (since the Wii does a lot more disc access). While my PS3 is healthy, if I have it on for more than 5 minutes it sounds like an Apache getting ready for take off.
Paying for online play is more complicated for me than it is annoying (because of my bi-continental tendencies) so I won't bash them for that, but I will lay out my quibbles with MS:
So that's my story. I'm happy to have a 360 again, hopefully this will be the last one.