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Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:56:13
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I figured this place could use a new thread or two, and I don't mess with that news dump thing, so if it was linked there, my B.

Anyway: https://killscreen.com/articles/the-perverse-ideology-of-the-division/

At least as a novelty it's a type of review that isn't often used when reviewing video games, but is used actually a lot in terms of discussions about tv shows and film. There is a clear next level stench of smugness and pretention to it all, but I would argue that if you've ever believed that "video games are art", you should be totally cool with these type of reviews. Not everything should be a product review, we should have more reflective shit, or reviews centered around the greater cultural significance of a product. And for the most part, and this only after playing about 3-4 hours of The Division, who knows maybe the game becomes a good video game. I would argue on some level it's a lot of truth about the game.

What I don't agree with is more in how I believe it plays in a greater cultural thing than the where the writer went with. He went with the way it glosses over all these political gray area stuff, because it's a misguided cultural representation of an ideal, it's perverse, and blah blah, but I would argue he read way too much into it. Why? Because gaming, especially Triple A western gaming isn't fucking capable of having an opinion or a fucking thought of their own. The Division doesn't cut down on the moral gray or present misguided blah blah with any actual intent, it does it because triple A gaming too often takes one too many cues from really shitty successful films or works of pulp culture. It's more an actual cultural issues in the other mediums (the one the writer is describing) and highlights how triple A gaming can't even have its own fuck up, it has emulate someone else's fuck up.

And that's not to say certain devs don't do way the fuck more. Kojima's games for instance, there is no fucking doubt you are getting Kojima's opinion. Game's like Metro Last Light and The Witcher 3 are definitively indicative of their region in terms of how the writing greatly differs from what you see from the rest of contemporary western gaming. Triple A at least. Which is why I eye rolled my way through, but eh I'd take reading through that over a dozen or see Jeremy Parish product reviews, and he's actually like a reasonably good video game reviewer.

Thoughts VG Press?


Too pretentious?

Did you simply not care?

Would you have preferred if he just gave it the Ubisoft Game review?

In your region do you say Soda (that's the correct term by the way for you heathens) or Pop for cola?

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Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:43:37
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What the fuck you pretentious, smug, ignorant xenaphobe, Gagan! There are more terms for "cola" than soda and pop. You have a perverse idea of soft drinks.

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Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:49:31
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First of all, fuck The Division, and Destiny. more to follow.

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Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:50:42
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"It’s always been a quirk of videogames that they succeed in depicting believable environments over believable people. "

Thus last of us' breakthrough. And Ninja Theory's Enslaved.

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Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:57:19
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I finished readin that review or whatever it was and mostly agree with it.

Strange thing, I have heard contrasitng views, that this game is a negative portrayl of consumerism. But since i always go with the underclass, I wholeheartedly give this review a:

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Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:41:43
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What the fuck you pretentious, smug, ignorant xenaphobe, Gagan! There are more terms for "cola" than soda and pop. You have a perverse idea of soft drinks.

1. Prison Islands don't have opinions.

2. Soda is the only correct answer.

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Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:10:03
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Who the F calls it Soda ? Oh yeah all those East Cost Bean eaters!

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Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:11:27
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First of all, fuck The Division, and Destiny. more to follow.

I agree both are overrated garbage IMO.

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Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:28:16
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The review itself: good shit until that premature ejaculation of an ending, so weak-willed I feel bad for commenting on it. Let's just pretend it never happened, and try again later, darling. This time you choose the blue pill.

However, I disagree a little with the premise of your commentary on it (only reason I'm posting, review makes itself unworthy of commentary with that ending). When propaganda as undisguised as this (I haven't played it, so I'm obviously in a perfect position to comment on this lol) becomes the default position for mediocrities who don't have any opinions of their own, or are unwilling to express them, is exactly when you're truly fucked. Not when someone with talent actually has the capacity to have and express a dangerous ideal that may or may not reflect the status quo spouts his own BS.

Frank Miller is far less dangerous than Christopher Nolan. The former is a fascsist genius, the latter a mediocre vessel to perpetuate and agitate, for better or worse, the will of an entire increasingly-fascist populace.

Edited: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:33:23

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