First third party pro controller that puts the sticks in the right place gets my money.

Wait...Black Ops 2 uses the gamepad in incredible ways? Where? Out of all the games I've played so far, BLOPS 2 uses the gamepad the LEAST out of them all! I actually started playing with the Pro pad, because all I was getting on the Gamepad was a pic of the box art.

That's cool that Devil May Cry is good...nice to see.

I am just totally hooked on Zombi U...this game is awesome and is definitely going down as one of my favorite launch games ever. If you don't count Twilight Princess as it was supposed to be a Gamecube game, this is the best launch game since Halo, hands down. Because not only is it a great game, but it takes advantage of what the system can do and sets the bar for everyone else. That's what a great launch game SHOULD do.

I had planned on playing a lot more this week, more Halo 4, more U games, etc...but I can't fucking stop playing this game.

Tonight I showed the U off to one of my friends who had not been keeping up on it and had no interest really....I gave him a tutorial of Zombi U and let him play with the Gamepad and he was totally impressed. His exact words were "Wow..this is not what I expected it to be like at all..this is fuckin' sweet." He was blown away at the way I was selecting weapons and items on the touchscreen so fast while the play on the bigscreen was unaffected. Pretty sure he's buying one now.

I just got to that part of Zombi U where that car is in the middle of the street with the British flag on it...that pic GG posted awhile back. This is easily the most graphically impressive area so far. Most of the game looks like mid-level 360 graphics, but this area looks gorgeous. The game is quite long too...I feared it would be short but its not. I so hope Ubisoft has greenlit a sequel with a big budget behind it...would love to see them make Zombi 2 push the console as hard graphically as it does gameplay-wise.

Also, allowing you and a friend to do co-op online would be incredible...Dvader and I could be tearin' it up.

Robio is so hooked on nintendoland. that is all he plays. Zombiu time for me

Just watched the first few hours on Zombiu on Youtube. It looks pretty boring to be honest, and not even close to next gen graphics either. It looks like a 5/10 game for me.

Im watching this new Scribblenauts game now though and it looks really good.

Tower of London section in ZombiU, wow! This game is a gem, excellent launch game. I wouldnt say its one of the best games of the year but it fills a niche that is rare today, a true survival horror game. I was down in sewers where I had to use the scanner to find hidden arrows guiding me. I fell through a hole so there was no way back, I was low on health and out of health items. Plus now I am in water meaning i cant access my backpack, only have a handgun and shotgun. I hear zombies but its dark and they hide in the water. Out of the corner I see one coming, he has a bomb straped to him!! AHHH, I shot but he got close so now I have almost no health. I see a bunch more on my radar, I have to go forward, I step into the darkness gun at the ready hoping I dont get hit. The game is that intense, so awesome.

I started watching games a bit this year, I find it more interesting than watching TV a lot of times since there are only several shows I like and they take long breaks. It's awesome watching games on other systems you don't plan on getting, or games that you pass on but still want to check out. Especially if there is a fun group playing them with a live chat its good times. A lot of times I don't really want to play a game but wouldn't mind checking some out so its great entertainment to me.

Anyways yeah i'm not liking Zombiu even though I wanted to, i'm not a fan of the slow scanning or tromping around boring sewers with blechy graphics. Its not tense or exciting to me at all it looks like the epitome of a tedius game. The map being on the gamepad is annoying as fuck too. The guy playing would get killed now and then cause he would be looking at the map and get fucking killed out of nowhere, constantly looking down at the controller for scanning and looking at your map seemed like such a needless chore.

Scribblenauts looks like some fun but i'm not sure there is enough gameplay there that I would buy it. It was a fun game to watch for a while but the whole schtick of the game was starting to wear a bit thin after only a couple hours. Don't think i'd buy it but I can see the appeal, it looks ok.

I'll check out some mario next.

Also if you're loving these games-- awesome, just my impressions is all. I am a lot more harshl with my critique than most people are on games.

Dvader said:

Capcom doesn't know how to make ps3 games,wow. the 360 version of dmc looks much better. But the ps3 version controls better. This sucks.





But you know what doesn't suck, using the wiiu while playing ps3 to post. it is possible to set up a game on another console and use the wii u as a webcam between players at the same time.

A cool feature. I saw the japanese trailer and the guy flipped NSMB U to the gamepad and watched a football match on tv at the same time.

Can you U owners do a distance test for us of the wireless range? Measure it and try different rooms/floors etc?

edgecrusher said:

Wait...Black Ops 2 uses the gamepad in incredible ways? Where? Out of all the games I've played so far, BLOPS 2 uses the gamepad the LEAST out of them all! I actually started playing with the Pro pad, because all I was getting on the Gamepad was a pic of the box art.

I have not read the reviews but I assume they mean for the single player.

edgecrusher said:

I am just totally hooked on Zombi U...this game is awesome and is definitely going down as one of my favorite launch games ever. If you don't count Twilight Princess as it was supposed to be a Gamecube game, this is the best launch game since Halo, hands down. Because not only is it a great game, but it takes advantage of what the system can do and sets the bar for everyone else. That's what a great launch game SHOULD do.

Critically it seems this game has turned the corner now and has many more good to great reviews than bad.

• Giant Bomb gave it a 4 out 5
• Nintendo World Report a 9/10
• Joystiq gave it 4.5 out of 5
• Nintendo Everything said it "is one of the best survival horror games I have ever had the immense pleasure of playing."

New reviews from Gametrailers and 1up didn't like it, C+ and a 6.something. Funny how a lot of the big U.S sites I used to rate 5 years ago don't like it. Other U.S Sites do like it. What's is the frame rate, 60 or 30?

_Bear said:

Well I hooked up my HDMI through the HTR tonight finally, so I'm getting PCM surround and I have to say it's quality. Assassins Creed 3 is so much better with PCM over DP logic II. With as much as you guys like Zombie Edge I have to try it now. F it I have wasted so much money on so many game. This game is getting as many rave reviews as crap. I have to play it for myself with the full PCM surround too!

Glad to hear your sound issues worked out.

GodModeEnabled said:

Scribblenauts looks like some fun but i'm not sure there is enough gameplay there that I would buy it. It was a fun game to watch for a while but the whole schtick of the game was starting to wear a bit thin after only a couple hours. Don't think i'd buy it but I can see the appeal, it looks ok.

I read that the fun of Scribblenauts mostly happens in your brain. You have fun imagining things to create and then marvel at their creation. I can think of some pretty fruity (not used in a gay slur context) stuff to create that would be fun to see on screen and see how it interacts with everything.

gamingeek said:

Dice dev on hearing what 4A games said about Wii U's horrible slow CPU

Just a further elaboration on this point, a lot of ground up Wii U games are 60 FPS, some ports are having troubles maintaining 30. Wonderful 101, Nano Assault Neo, Nintendoland, Pikmin 3, NSMB U, Scribblenauts, Rayman Legends. Yeah I know a few of those are 2D. Nintendoland can do 60 FPS on screen whilst also doing a separate 480p U pad image?

Even Batman which is said to run choppier on U is doing 720p + 480p to the U pad screen. Simply put, other consoles cannot do this at all because they are not powerful enough to render a second 480p stream of a different viewpoint. So you have to judge games in context.

Also eSHop devs are having more luck, for instance 360 game Puddle is running at 1080p 60 FPS on U, which they couldn't achieve on 360. Frozenbyte said the Goblin Menace in its current form would not run on 360/PS3, it does run on U and PC. If the U was so weak none of this would make any sense. Gearbox has had Demiurge apparently making Aliens ground up on U - I hear. I would like to hear more details on this, but they keep repeatedly telling us that they have no doubt that the U version will be the best looking version. Again, if U was so incapable this would not be happening.

Ports are having problems and those truly in the know understand why, if they haven't optimised the code properly there will be problems. As developers gain more experience, things should get better.

EDIT: Some interesting info here, background downloads affecting Zombi U's framerate. If reviewers were playing games and the U was downloading stuff in the background it may have affected the frame rate of the games they were reviewing which could explain some complaints.

GAF said:

WiiU Background Downloads Affecting Performance

I'm pretty perceptive when it comes to picking up on visual oddities in my games. Visual glitches, frame rate drops, I'm unfortunately super sensitive to it all.



That's why when I happened to be downloading Darksiders 2 while playing a round of ZombiU, I realized the game was a bit more herky jerky than usual. I ventured over to my WiiU download management menu and realized that there's an option to pause downloads while gaming to guarantee a smooth gaming experience (don't have the system in front of me right now, forgot the exact wording)



Cool that its an option, annoying that it can impact your gaming performance.