Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Bullshit, selling bad part of the company and letting people go if what all companies do. It is nothing special!

They moved the TV division, Sony was TVs. And it's Japan they have weird customs.

So did Philips. Philips is now making most of its money with medical instruments. Again nothing surpising what Sony is doing!

Iga_Bobovic said:

So did Philips. Philips is now making most of its money with medical instruments. Again nothing surpising what Sony is doing!

Well a bunch here thought Sony was done so surprise!

Punk Rebel Ecks said:

I don't buy the mini-disc argument. The worst case scenario is that a game will use two discs instead of one. Not that big of a deal. The controller while unique I doubt was much of a developer killer. it had everything there, two analog sticks, triggers, DPad, and face buttons. PS2 had smaller memory cards than the Gamecube.

robio said:

I think the most interesting thing about how Sony has had runaway success with the PS4 is because they acheived it by not doing anything particularly special. It was well priced, but never really "a deal." They haven't really had an exclusive must-play game. Their first-year line up of software was actually below average if you ask me. They forced their audience to pay for PSN when they previously had free online gaming. It wasn't even backwards compatible.So what did they do?

They just didn't fuck up and do something stupid.

They didn't overprice their system and force additional hardware onto it that no one wanted. They didn't make a bizarre controller (though their own touch screen thing on the controller is more or less worthless) that jacked up the price of their system. They didn't scare anyone with talk of DRM. They just delivered a decent system, with decent games, at a decent price and guess what? It was enough. I wonder learned anything from that. For that matter, I kind of wonder if Sony learned anything from that.

So my white trash neighbors just had a shooting right outside my apartment.

Punk Rebel Ecks said:

So my white trash neighbors just had a shooting right outside my apartment.

Awesome....my black neighbors just had a 20 cop police raid for drugs two days ago.

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

So did Philips. Philips is now making most of its money with medical instruments. Again nothing surpising what Sony is doing!

Well a bunch here thought Sony was done so surprise!

53 million amiibo shipped.  I wonder how long it'll take before sales fall flat.  Once everyone and their mum owns a Mario, a Link and a Pikachu, there's little incentive to buy more.  Perhaps amiibo will be a more integral part of Nintendo's strategy with the NX, but if not I don't see them selling a lot of them anymore in a year or 2-3.

Analysts react to mobile plans, NX goals and more

“Investors are not going to like that. With the titles coming later in the year, earnings for the first half don’t look so good. And people who expected NX to launch this year will also be disappointed.” - Hideki Yasuda, an analyst at Ace Research Institute in Tokyo

“If Mario is available on smartphones, then why buy into the closed world of Nintendo handheld gaming?. Nintendo is going to delay releasing a Mario smartphone game until proven that it’s the only way to monetize its key intellectual properties on mobile.” - Pelham Smithers

“Given market hopes that as its famous characters will slowly be imported in games targeting smartphones, we believe its poor forecasts might be ignored. NX will also keep some investors hoping for a gradual recovery.” - Amir Anvarzadeh, manager of Japanese equity sales at BGC Partners Inc.

"Big picture: the NX is critical to the long term success of Nintendo,. Nintendo needs to rebound with the NX to remain a relevant platform holder over the next five years. The challenge is that the roadmap for a successful Nintendo console is unclear. The market is limited for a third HD console on which the main USP is Nintendo IP, and motion [controlled] gaming has evolved from a fad in mainstream entertainment into a niche. Finding the market need for a third console will be a challenge, and thus far very little is known about how the NX will accomplish this." - Patrick Walker, EEDAR's VP of insights and analytics

"The company may be taking the additional time to properly prepare for the NX launch and to maximise the quality of upcoming major franchises like Zelda as well. This may cause some investors anxiety, but we'll see whether it was worth the wait. Nintendo should be working on the NX library and manufacturing pipeline to make certain that the launch is smooth, with sufficient supply, and that the library will be sufficient to drive demand." - Billy Pidgeon, an independent analyst

"It's a bit of a half-step approach, but it's understandable since Nintendo's console business has to be focused on making the NX a success at this point. The Wii U didn't meet expectations, and I don't blame Nintendo for shifting gears and trying to come as strongly out of the gate with NX as possible. Having a great Zelda title on day one will help. Yes, the Wii U catalog is looking thin this holiday, but at this point I think Nintendo and everyone else can see the handwriting on the wall and it is pivoting towards whetting the appetite of its faithful fans for the NX." - IDC Research director Lewis Ward

"Scheduling a hardware launch so late in the [fiscal] year and excluding any NX sales from guidance suggests a lack of confidence that the device will actually launch in FY17. It is important to note that a March launch provides Nintendo with wiggle room to delay, as it's still likely to launch well ahead of the key holiday season." - Wedbush Securities' Michael Pachter

"Historically, Nintendo has been in control of most of the value chain, integrating both hardware and software into a single ecosystem, but now that situation has changed. For one, digital distribution takes up almost one-fifth of software revenue (19%), and continues to grow year-over-year. In addition, its success with new revenue streams like the amiibo is growing, even as US sales for the toys-to-life category have started to flatten out. That provides necessary income in the midst of a volatile period, but it cannot cover the whole. Nintendo's international success - with Fire Emblem selling more outside of Japan (1.06M units compared to 780K) - has a greater exposure to currency fluctuations. And, finally, both of its key titles, Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing, were initially conceived as console titles but have found their greatest degree of success on handhelds. It shows that the games industry is, in fact, so volatile that even a powerhouse like Nintendo is not impervious to it. Nintendo's current game plan is likely to provide enough runway to develop a full strategy and rollout that capitalises on the current market changes. The thing to remember about Nintendo is to never count it out." - SuperData's Joost van Dreunen

gamingeek said:

That's the thing that bugs me.

I don't bemoan their success, but I'm so sick of hearing the internet praising them for doing.... actually nothing.

Nothing new at least.

Nothing unprecedented, nothing imaginative, nothing risky, showing no vision. Some people will say that they made the console easy to develop for - revolutionary! Thank AMD for that, who also made XB1 and who are also going to make NX.

Well perhaps this just shows that gamers are rather tech savvy and having superior hardware actually does influence hardware sales.  Hopefully all console manufacturors took note and we'll actually see some decent hardware upgrade next time round.  Although the law of diminishing returns in processor improvements will probably result in even smaller upgrades, possibly resulting in yearly updates to hardware as we see in the smartphone and tablet market.