1. Heat. I live in the fucking tropic, so tough shit. And it's especially shitty when my car's A/C breaks (like...NOW) and my wife won't let me use hers. Anyway, fuck heat, I'd rather live up there in the tundra with Yoda and die in the fangs of a polar bear if I had the chance of not being hot ever again.

2. Mosquitos. Again, tough shit. Over here some of them are the size of Meganeuras, so that adds to the thrill of going out on summer nights while avoiding being drained out of all of your blood in a matter of minutes.

3. Seafood. Holy crap I hate it. I can only stomach certain dishes with fish. But anything beyond that is out of the question. And it's not even an allergies thing or whatever. I just can't fucking stand the flavor and consistency of some of the ocean's most treasured delicacies.

4. Condiments. Damn them all to hell. I hate ketchup, mayo, mustard and anything in between that can be squirted, smeared or splooged over food. If you seat next to me at dinner, and whip out nonchalantly your huge fucking bottle of ketchup, you're going to get my trademark evil eye and will probably develope explosive diarrhoea by the sheer force of my willpower.

5. Headaches. I'm very prone to migraines, and even the mildest headache can quickly develop into an apocalyptic nightmare of pain, nausea and misery in the right circumstances. So everytime I start getting that very special feeling on my forehead and temples, I get very cranky because I know what's usually coming next.

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Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:53:03
aspro said:

Correct, this would be hypocritical is the objection were a moral one.

I am talking about people who assign special merit points to whales over other animals. I have not heard the argument that "the whales that are being hunted are endangered species" as a primary argument against whaling since I was a kid growing up in the 80's.

Well whales, like dolphins, apes and elephants are self aware. So there's that thing too. And yes, the endagered argument is used all the time. Maybe one of your other personalities heard it?

 
Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:02:41

I love that argument. "The aninamls I have no intention of eating are self-aware, the one's I do are not."

I've worked with cattle my entire childhood, and since I've returned to Australia.  They are self-aware, all animals I've encountered are.

And before you start, none of the animals on my property are ever killed.

EDIT: As for what arguments you and Yoda hear the most and what arguments I hear the most, well, that's all anecdotal.

 
Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:04:16

Do you even know what self awareness means and what it implies?

How do you know your sheep are self aware? Because I work with animals is not an valid argument.

 
Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:13:35

This thread got interesting.

 
Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:29:22
There's an actual definition for self-awareness, and a method of testing for it -- it's called the Mirror Test
Animals that have passed the mirror test include: all of the great apes (bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, humans, and gorillas), rhesus macaques, bottlenose dolphins, orcas,  elephants, and European Magpies.
Of course, this doesn't work so great on bats.
 
Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:35:20

WTF image google "bonobo" yields an unholy amount of apes fucking.

I'm not even joking.

 
Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:41:05
LOL
 
Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:43:16

For the love of all that is good and holy do not --EVER-- Google "hamsterbo."

 
Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:29:59
Yodariquo said:
There's an actual definition for self-awareness, and a method of testing for it -- it's called the Mirror Test
Animals that have passed the mirror test include: all of the great apes (bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, humans, and gorillas), rhesus macaques, bottlenose dolphins, orcas,  elephants, and European Magpies.
Of course, this doesn't work so great on bats.

Nor some isolated people, nor some children etc.

 
Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:53:34
Iga_Bobovic said:

Do you even know what self awareness means and what it implies?

How do you know your sheep are self aware? Because I work with animals is not an valid argument.




I fell for the rhetorical trap of defending a position that is not my own.  Self-aware or not no animal should be killed.  My reason is that they should not be killed because they have the capacity to feel pain.

In any case, my error for commenting on an issue I care about.  I'm checking out.

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