Screw this, this is now a PC vs Console blog.
More importantly: PC gaming>>>console gaming. This has absolutely has no objective basis, but this was how I really grew up gaming so there's just something that makes it really easy to get lost in a game by sitting close to a monitor with a mouse in one hand, and your other hand's fingers on the keyboard.
You get lost sitting at a desk?! A DESK... the thing you sit behind at a job. The thing you use to do WORK. Oh yes getting close to a screen makes you feel better, then sit closer to your probably much bigger and nicer TV. Mouse in one hand, keyboard in another, that feels good... yes for writing crap on the internet. For surfing porn. For writing a school report. NOT GAMING. Its a device with letters for typing, not buttons. I think sitting too close to the PC screen melted all your brains into somehow thinking a keyboard is a good device for gaming.
Anyway enjoy playing all three PC genres, great selection of exclusives you have there... I'll stick with actual gaming.
(And we have the topic of the week, your welcome.)
Dvader said:Screw this, this is now a PC vs Console blog.
More importantly: PC gaming>>>console gaming. This has absolutely has no objective basis, but this was how I really grew up gaming so there's just something that makes it really easy to get lost in a game by sitting close to a monitor with a mouse in one hand, and your other hand's fingers on the keyboard.
You get lost sitting at a desk?! A DESK... the thing you sit behind at a job. The thing you use to do WORK. Oh yes getting close to a screen makes you feel better, then sit closer to your probably much bigger and nicer TV. Mouse in one hand, keyboard in another, that feels good... yes for writing crap on the internet. For surfing porn. For writing a school report. NOT GAMING. Its a device with letters for typing, not buttons. I think sitting too close to the PC screen melted all your brains into somehow thinking a keyboard is a good device for gaming.
Anyway enjoy playing all three PC genres, great selection of exclusives you have there... I'll stick with actual gaming.
(And we have the topic of the week, your welcome.)
There are many things wrong with this post, but the bolded strikes me as especially offensive. Do we have a podcast lined up? This can't be adressed by written language only. Typed words cannot do enough justice to the holy rage building inside me.
SteelAttack said:There are many things wrong with this post, but the bolded strikes me as especially offensive. Do we have a podcast lined up? This can't be adressed by written language only. Typed words cannot do enough justice to the holy rage building inside me.
Did you enjoy playing that strategy game on the PC. Now you're playing a FPS right. Maybe throw in an RPG later. Then what... 
Steel I am doing this just cause it seemed boring around here today. Don't get too angry, I love you.
Dvader said:Steel I am doing this just cause it seemed boring around here today. Don't get too angry, I love you.
I'm not angry.
Not yet, at least. Wait until I get a hold of you on Skype.
<3
SteelAttack said:There are many things wrong with this post, but the bolded strikes me as especially offensive. Do we have a podcast lined up? This can't be adressed by written language only. Typed words cannot do enough justice to the holy rage building inside me.
Record a rant and school this child senor steelo.
Foolz said:Record a rant and school this child senor steelo.
There is nothing to school. If I never get a gaming PC for the rest of my life, I will be totally fine, there are almost no PC exclusives that I care about. I cannot live without consoles (you know I dont mean that literally). Flip it on yourself, will you be ok without ever getting a new console. Think of the tons and tons of exclusives you would be missing out on in a wide variety of genres.
I don't care for strategy games, thats about the only genre PC has major exclusives. FPS, they practically all come out on consoles, same with RPGs. Really think about this, name me one major action/adventure PC exclusive in the last oh 5 years. Name me one major platformer PC exclusive in the last 5 years. Hell name me one exclusive Japanese PC game. Fighting game? Music game? Action game, DMC/GoW like? JRPG? Sports sim? Its like those genres just don't exist. In those genres, the ones I care about have I missed anything cause I don't have a gaming PC, NOPE.
So that is where I am coming from. I understand that PCs get a ton of games from consoles as well and it has a huge selection. I am not talking about what you can play on PC, you can play all sorts of games. I am talking about what you can ONLY play on PC compared to what you can ONLY play on consoles and its no contest really.
Foolz said:And 90% of games are Little Big Planet, but with more creative and talented people working on mods.
Hmm, thats funny cause I dont think I have ever seen a platformer for PC.
Dvader said:Hmm, thats funny cause I dont think I have ever seen a platformer for PC.
Obviously my point was you'll find mods for many games, and you'll find things a hell of a lot better than anything you could find on LBP.
And to answer your question: yes, easily. For everything other than practical reasons which don't have any relevance to the debate I would take a PC over a console any day.
I am conflicted on this. I'll save the personal memories etc... and just say that until I had to work in front of a computer for 9-10 ours a day I was a PC gamer.
Work removed my love of the computer, the console and couch was a better fit.
Even though I am retired now, I'm still in the console habit. My old computer, and weird place I have the computer in my house don't help in changing that.
There is certainly something to be said about PC gaming being more absorbing. It takes in your attention in a way that the console cannot.
I guess I don;t see it as being an either/or situation, you should be able to enjoy both in a best case scenario.
Foolz said:Obviously my point was you'll find mods for many games, and you'll find things a hell of a lot better than anything you could find on LBP.
And to answer your question: yes, easily. For everything other than practical reasons which don't have any relevance to the debate I would take a PC over a console any day.
LBP is not mods, its a level creator with built in sharing and community features, what is so hard to understand about that. A mod by definition modifies a game, in LBP creating levels IS the game.
Ok for what games would you rather have a PC over a console cause I never see you talking about any PC games.
aspro said:
There is certainly something to be said about PC gaming being more absorbing. It takes in your attention in a way that the console cannot.
I don't understand this. For me being at a desk with a keyboard and mouse, devices not made for gaming completely sucks me out of any immersion. I am very much aware that I am on a PC. Sitting in my chair, in my room with my nice HDTV with a controller in hand with great sound is far more immersive. How do you watch movies, stuck to a desk, no you watch them on a TV or a big screen. Games like movies have the same effect to suck you in, especially when you are more comfortable so you can focus only on the display. Being closer to a screen does not make for a more immersive experience its more about the environment and to me a desk kills it.
When I am playing a PC game the screen is about 20 inches from my face and takes up almost all of my sight. When I am watching TV I am 6 foot back. If I die, I may pause and then flip over to cable TV for a while, I might notice my wife in my peripheral vision etc...
When gaming on the PC, that is ALL I am doing. No room for distraction.
Console game controller WIN. It's like and extension of my brain. But for field of view, PC wins.
aspro said:TV is a lay-back experience, PC is a lean-forward experience (these are terms used in the industry).
When I am playing a PC game the screen is about 20 inches from my face and takes up almost all of my sight. When I am watching TV I am 6 foot back. If I die, I may pause and then flip over to cable TV for a while, I might notice my wife in my peripheral vision etc...
When gaming on the PC, that is ALL I am doing. No room for distraction.
Console game controller WIN. It's like and extension of my brain. But for field of view, PC wins.
So move your chair in front of the TV. I have no distractions in my room, as I said its about the environment. Your setup is more of a living room kind of thing so yeah there it would be more distracting. I have it in a small room so its far more focused.
Dvader said:LBP is not mods, its a level creator with built in sharing and community features, what is so hard to understand about that. A mod by definition modifies a game, in LBP creating levels IS the game.
Ok for what games would you rather have a PC over a console cause I never see you talking about any PC games.
You can make new mods with games. And there's Gary's Mod anyway which has more freedom than LBP and is basically a game creation tool. I don't want to start this headbanging contest on this subject that you've been engaged in before, though. Even though I did. Sorry!
And that'd be because up until now I was using the other computer. If the website was a few years older you would have. And you will now...actually the depends on the practicalities.
aspro said:TV is a lay-back experience, PC is a lean-forward experience (these are terms used in the industry).
When I am playing a PC game the screen is about 20 inches from my face and takes up almost all of my sight. When I am watching TV I am 6 foot back. If I die, I may pause and then flip over to cable TV for a while, I might notice my wife in my peripheral vision etc...
When gaming on the PC, that is ALL I am doing. No room for distraction.
Console game controller WIN. It's like and extension of my brain. But for field of view, PC wins.
You can easily use a controller on the computer! Though, i suppose you can also play consoles on monitors.
You guys realize that you can connect PC on pretty much all the modern TVs right? Also you can use a controller if you want. Not that it matters much, because when it comes to FPS and RTS keyboard and mouse rule.
Iga_Bobovic said:You guys realize that you can connect PC on pretty much all the modern TVs right? Also you can use a controller if you want. Not that it matters much, because when it comes to FPS and RTS keyboard and mouse rule.
I am no fan of keyboard and mouse for FPSs but I understand the benefits of it for competition. But you guys like straining your fingers on a keyboard to do basic actions rather than having it all comfortably laid out on a controller?
RTS definetely needs a keyboard and mouse.
Dvader said:There is nothing to school. If I never get a gaming PC for the rest of my life, I will be totally fine, there are almost no PC exclusives that I care about. I cannot live without consoles (you know I dont mean that literally). Flip it on yourself, will you be ok without ever getting a new console. Think of the tons and tons of exclusives you would be missing out on in a wide variety of genres.
I don't care for strategy games, thats about the only genre PC has major exclusives. FPS, they practically all come out on consoles, same with RPGs. Really think about this, name me one major action/adventure PC exclusive in the last oh 5 years. Name me one major platformer PC exclusive in the last 5 years. Hell name me one exclusive Japanese PC game. Fighting game? Music game? Action game, DMC/GoW like? JRPG? Sports sim? Its like those genres just don't exist. In those genres, the ones I care about have I missed anything cause I don't have a gaming PC, NOPE.
So that is where I am coming from. I understand that PCs get a ton of games from consoles as well and it has a huge selection. I am not talking about what you can play on PC, you can play all sorts of games. I am talking about what you can ONLY play on PC compared to what you can ONLY play on consoles and its no contest really.
1. Yeah. I would be alright without getting a new console ever again. As a matter of fact, I am thinking of that approach when the next generation of consoles arrives, whenever that is. As long as I have enough quality stuff to play, I wouldn't be missing on anything.
2. I do care for strategy games. I don't give two shits about platformers even though I do play one here and there. Where does that leave us? I don't understand the fixation with exclusives when you're talking about "console gaming". You're lumping all three systems with an aggregate cost of almost 1000 bucks into an amorphous blob that magically has every exclusive under the sun covered. Even exclusive "japanese games" whatever the hell those are.
3. Yeah, it's really no contest. On PC I can play stuff that you wouldn't find on any console. Games like Amnesia, The Witcher, StarCraft II, Diablo III, the Anno series (the real ones), Europa Universalis III, Dawn of War games, The Longest Journey, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., the Total War series, King's Bounty games, Mount & Blade, any MMO worth playing including free to play games such as LOTRO, the Civilization series, among others I'm not into such as combat simulators and hardcore racing games that shit all over GT5, plus most multiplatform games cheaper and with settings that put any console to shame with a minimal investment, and that offer wide support for any kind of gamepad or peripheral. Those are the games I'm interested in. Fortunately, I can indulge in both worlds, but if I was pressed to choose, I would go PC and wouldn't look behind.
PC gaming>>>console gaming. This has absolutely has no objective basis, but this was how I really grew up gaming so there's just something that makes it really easy to get lost in a game by sitting close to a monitor with a mouse in one hand, and your other hand's fingers on the keyboard. Now I just need a new monitor, though I might want to hold off as the courier may well just be an axe murderer, and the axes that we have grown very fond of. HD actually matters on something like Crysis.* Plus the games. Warhead was the first game I've played this generation based on the Doom style of gameplay intead of the CoD style. And Wars...huge maps, vehicles, and just general chaos. That is how it should be done. Unless you're Killzone 2
Of course matters of the physical may not be the reason at all. Perhaps the games are just better. In fact, they probably are.
And of coures you can even play at higher resolutions than 1080P, thus making the PS3/360 as obsolete as the Wii. And 90% of games are Little Big Planet, but with more creative and talented people working on mods.